Daniel M. Goldberg is the Partner and Chair of the Data Strategy, Privacy & Security Group at Frankfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz PC. He advises on a wide range of privacy, security, and AI matters. His expertise spans from handling high-stakes regulatory enforcement actions to shaping the application of privacy and AI laws. Earlier this year, the California Privacy Lawyers Association named him the “California Privacy Lawyer of the Year.”
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
- Daniel Goldberg shares his career journey from attending law school to leading the Data Strategy, Privacy, and Security Group at Frankfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz PC
- Overview of California’s broad definition of Automated Decision-Making Technology (ADMT)
- How companies can assess tools and technologies to determine if CCPA ADMT requirements apply to them
- Challenges of regulating high-risk systems
- Future AI regulations in California and beyond
- What companies should know about the CCPA requirement for mandatory cybersecurity audits
- How companies can prepare for risk assessments under the CCPA
- Daniel’s personal privacy tip
In this episode…
California is reshaping privacy compliance with its latest updates to the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA). These sweeping changes introduce new obligations for businesses operating in California, notably in the areas of Automated Decision-Making Technology (ADMT), cybersecurity audits, and risk assessments. So, what can companies do now to get ahead?
Companies can prepare by understanding the scope of the new rules and whether or not they apply to their business, as the regulations are set to take effect on October 1, 2025, if they are filed with the Secretary of State by August 31. If that filing happens later, the next effective date will shift to January 1, 2026. The rules around ADMT are especially complex, with broad definitions that could apply to any tool or system that processes personal data to make significant decisions about consumers. Beyond ADMT, certain companies will also need to conduct comprehensive cybersecurity audits through an independent auditor, a process that may be challenging for smaller organizations. Risk assessments impose an additional obligation by requiring reviews of activities such as processing, selling, or sharing sensitive data, and using ADMT for significant decision-making, among others, with attestations submitted to regulators. The new rules make it clear that California regulators also expect companies to maintain detailed documentation and demonstrate accountability through governance.
In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Daniel Goldberg, Partner and Chair of the Data Strategy, Privacy & Security Group at Frankfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz PC, about how companies can navigate the CCPA’s new requirements. From ADMT to mandatory cybersecurity audits and risk assessments, Daniel provides a detailed overview of the complex requirements, explaining the scope and its impact on companies. He also outlines how these new rules set the tone for future privacy and AI regulations, why documentation and governance are central to compliance, and shares practical tips on the importance of reviewing AI tool settings to ensure sensitive data and confidential information are not used for AI model training.
Resources Mentioned in this episode
- Jodi Daniels on LinkedIn
- Justin Daniels on LinkedIn
- Red Clover Advisors’ website
- Red Clover Advisors on LinkedIn
- Red Clover Advisors on Facebook
- Red Clover Advisors’ email: info@redcloveradvisors.com
- Data Reimagined: Building Trust One Byte at a Time by Jodi and Justin Daniels
- Daniel Goldberg: LinkedIn | Email
- Franfurt Kurnit Klein & Selz PC
Sponsor for this episode…
This episode is brought to you by Red Clover Advisors.
Red Clover Advisors uses data privacy to transform the way that companies do business together and create a future where there is greater trust between companies and consumers.
Founded by Jodi Daniels, Red Clover Advisors helps companies to comply with data privacy laws and establish customer trust so that they can grow and nurture integrity. They work with companies in a variety of fields, including technology, e-commerce, professional services, and digital media.
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Intro 0:01
Welcome to the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, like any good marriage, we will debate, evaluate, and sometimes quarrel about how privacy and security impact business in the 21st Century.
Jodi Daniels 0:21
Hi. Jodi Daniels, here. I’m the founder and CEO of Red Clover Advisors…
Justin Daniels 0:35
Hi, I am Justin Daniels, I am a shareholder and corporate M and A…
Jodi Daniels 1:01
And this episode is brought to you by that’s where you make a beep.
Justin Daniels 1:06
I thought it would be silence today. That’s a horrible would
Jodi Daniels 1:09
would you like to try again? Ding. Red Clover Advisors…
Justin Daniels 1:48
our Oh, you get the co host. You pay for that, like
Jodi Daniels 1:51
the Monday blues or something. No,
Justin Daniels 1:53
we’re not on a Monday.
Jodi Daniels 1:54
Oh, my God, you’re right. It’s Wednesday. Oops, clearly I am a little tired…
Daniel Goldberg 2:36
Great. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Jodi, thank you Justin,
Jodi Daniels 2:42
that’s where you are. Do you need like cues today? No,
Justin Daniels 2:45
just annoying you, which is fun…
Daniel Goldberg 2:53
Yeah, absolutely. So I, I’m from Los Angeles, California…
Jodi Daniels 3:48
what’s gonna look like in 10 years either. I’m curious…
Daniel Goldberg 3:59
Yeah, I really enjoy digging into the weeds of the technologies…
Jodi Daniels 4:41
I love the intersection, excuse me, marketing and privacy…
Daniel Goldberg 5:38
Yeah, so being based in California and practicing here…
Jodi Daniels 6:42
Yeah, I mean, so some people have even gone to, okay, well…
Daniel Goldberg 7:20
Yeah, yeah. Honestly, this is something that you really…
Justin Daniels 10:03
Well, Daniel, when you talked about a significant decision for a consumer…
Daniel Goldberg 11:38
Now, some people are saying this specific area is California’s way…
Jodi Daniels 11:50
I think that’s, I think that’s very true…
Justin Daniels 13:36
So Daniel, can you talk a little bit more about the mandatory cybersecurity audits…
Jodi Daniels 16:44
you hit on one of the areas that I wanted to emphasize…
Daniel Goldberg 17:42
as I read it, they suffice for the obligation as long as they hit all the elements…
Jodi Daniels 18:55
I’m going, I love that, and I actually had a conversation…
Daniel Goldberg 20:27
Yes. So as I mentioned before, ADMT is tied to this concept…
Jodi Daniels 22:48
you literally were thinking exactly what I was thinking…
Daniel Goldberg 23:11
Well, there’s a few different things…
Jodi Daniels 25:14
So Daniel, when you’re out and about…
Daniel Goldberg 25:23
So is this? Let me ask you, Justin…
Justin Daniels 25:35
We’ve had our guests? Answer all over the gamut…
Daniel Goldberg 25:50
Well, you know, since AI is such a hot topic…
Jodi Daniels 26:38
for sure, absolutely…
Justin Daniels 27:17
You know, that’s interesting. You bring that up…
Daniel Goldberg 27:29
Well, that’s a whole different question…
Justin Daniels 27:49
I just find it interesting…
Daniel Goldberg 28:12
Yeah, AI really is so broad…
Jodi Daniels 29:27
So I love to travel. Just we, my wife and I…
Jodi Daniels 30:25
Oh, that sounds amazing…
Daniel Goldberg 30:30
I know, right, very, very niche…
Jodi Daniels 30:46
Absolutely. Well, Daniel, it has been so much fun…
Daniel Goldberg 30:59
Yeah. So if you want to connect with me…
Jodi Daniels 31:33
Well, thank you again. We appreciate it
Daniel Goldberg 31:37
cool. Thank you guys so much, and I would love to come back.
Outro 31:44
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